The voices in your head say "buy these things. You don't need them or have any use for them, but they're freaking cool, man. They're obsolete but your friends don't have one and you can have not one but TWO!!" If you heard that then you and I more than likely have the same voices. Listen to the voices. Let them be heard over that loud annoying alarm in your head fueled by common sense. Ignore that alarm like yours truely. Display your lack of common sense for all the world to see and buy these useless things, like I did. One is made in the USA by Blackstone Mfg. The other is Made in Taiwan. Show some diversity and buy my Blackstone and it's little Asian buddy. Perfect gift for a mancave. $15 OBO for both.